CWR: When you were a Baptist and looking at the Catholic Church from the outside, what did you think about the papacy?

Stephen K. Ray: A year before I was born my parents became Baptists; they prayed for kids and I was born a year later. My father was taught to be very anti-Catholic. He loved books and I still have many of his old books from the 1950s in my library. I recall one even from my days of tussling with my brothers on the living room carpet. It loomed large on the shelf. It was entitled The Two Babylons and Papal Worship was in the subtitle [The Papal Worship Proved to Be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife]. That particular book is still on my office shelves today.

Screen Shot 2018-10-05 at 9.42.07 AMMy father’s passionate Baptist views of Bible and Christianity had a huge impact on my early years, as I loved my father dearly. If he said the Pope was the anti-christ and that Catholics worshipped the Pope instead of Christ, who was I to argue with him? After all, I didn’t know any better and I didn’t know any Catholics.

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As I grew older and experienced more of the wide world and other Christian groups, I continued to view Catholicism as a “man-made institution” invented by clever men who twisted Scripture to manipulate gullible people who had never read the Bible for themselves.

I wondered: Why would freedom-loving people in America want to let some old man in Rome tell them what to believe and what to do? Hadn’t we overthrown kings and emperors? Why subject ourselves again to a foreign leader named “the Pope”, who intended to encroach in every area of our lives? We had the Bible and the “Bible alone” and that was enough for us.

CWR: What were some key arguments or facts that changed your views? And how do they inform this particular book?

Ray: Having no interest in the Catholic Church, other than to convert naive Catholics to real, biblical Christianity, several things converged on us at the same time.

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Is the Mass a Sacrifice?

by Steve Ray on December 6, 2018

St. Paul mentions three sacrifices in 1 Corinthians 10:15-21 (see below). He compares the Sacrifice at the Mass with the sacrifice of the Jews and of the pagans. He even uses the phrase “table of the Lord” which is a technical term for an altar of sacrifice in the Old Testament (Malachi 1:7, 12). The Fathers of the Church all referred to Malachi 1:11 as an Old Testament prophecy of the future Eucharist which we now celebrate.

Malachi says of the defiled Jewish sacrifice, “By offering polluted food upon my altar. And you say, ‘How have we polluted it?’ By thinking that the Lord’s table may be despised” (1:7). Then, referring to new upcoming sacrifice among the Gentiles, “For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is great among the nations, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering; for my name is great among the nations, says the Lord of hosts (1:11).

Chart Showing Paul’s Use of “Sacrifice” in 1 Cor 10

1 Corinthians 10:15–21

“I speak as to sensible men; judge for yourselves what I say. The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread.

“Consider the people of Israel; are not those who eat the sacrifices partners in the altar? What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be partners with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.”

Three different religions (pagan, Jew and Christian);
Three different participations (pagan altar, Jewish altar, Christian altar – Table of the Lord);
Three results (participation in the altar for Jews who eat the sacrificed meat, participation in demons for the pagans, and participation in the Body and Blood of Christ with Christians).

“This is My Body … this is My Blood”

The Didache, written contemporaneously with the books of the New Testament in the 1st century says, “On the Lord’s own day gather together and break bread and give thanks, having first confessed your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who has a quarrel with a companion join you until they have been reconciled, so that your sacrifice may not be defiled. For this is the sacrifice concerning which the Lord said, “In every place and time offer me a pure sacrifice, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is marvelous among the nations (Mal 1:11).”

Clement of Rome (96 AD): “Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate [bishop or group of presiding bishops] those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices.”

Ignatius (martyred 107 AD) “Make certain, therefore, that you all observe one common Eucharist; for there is but one Body of our Lord Jesus Christ, and but one cup of union with His Blood, and one single altar of sacrifice?even as also there is but one bishop, with his clergy and my own fellow-servitors the deacons.

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Farewells & Comments from Amazing Mexico!

by Steve Ray on December 5, 2018

It’s always sad to say goodbye to people after being with them 9 or 10 days. This pilgrimage through Mexico went flawlessly. We emphasized Guadalupe and the Catholic heritage of this land but also the cultural, historical, and fun aspects. We enjoyed the close contact and fellowship with the Mexican people .

Everyone had a great time and the fears that Americans tend to have, and the preconceived ideas of what Mexico is like, were all blown to pieces. Mexico is a beautiful, safe, clean and Catholic country.

Here are the comments and thoughts as shared by the pilgrims.

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How Big was Noah’s Ark

December 5, 2018

It was a big boat at a time when big boats did not exist. It was a feat of genius ingenuity. You can read the instructions for building in Genesis 6:14-22. We are also told that the ark is a picture of the Church and salvation. In the ark Noah passed through the waters which […]

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Last Day in Mexico: Xochimilco, Gondola Rides, Village Chapel for Mass and more

December 5, 2018

We are all still reeling from the experience as yesterday at Guadalupe. And this being our last day, is more for fun and relaxing before heading back to the United States. We started the day with a short drive to Xochimilco where we boarded colorfully  painted gondolas and went through the canals being serenaded by […]

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What the Bible Says about Homosexuality

December 4, 2018

What the Bible Really Says on Homosexuality in 5 Quotes By  TFP Student Action If you defend true marriage, you’ve probably heard the following fallacy: “Jesus only talked about love.  The Bible doesn’t condemn homosexuality.”  Sadly, even voices within the Church try to reinterpret or silence the truth contained in the Bible. However, the Bible clearly […]

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Guadalupe All Day! Day 8 of our Mexico Pilgrimage

December 3, 2018

Today is the pinnacle of our pilgrimage through Mexico. We started in the outlying areas learning the history, culture, and backdrop for the Catholic heritage of Mexico. We learned of the first Spanish missionaries who came, the first baptisms and the Mass conversions due to Our Lady of Guadalupe. Our guide Roberto is a wealth […]

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Sex Abuse Scandals: Catholic, Protestant and Secular – You May Be Surprised

December 3, 2018

SEX ABUSE SCANDALS CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT AND SECULAR: Article by Dave Armstrong “Scandalous Sexual Misconduct Committed by Protestant Clergy” and it’s original source. I kept hearing about all these scandals going on in the Catholic Church.  I would hear about scandals from the east coast to the west coast and even in Europe.   The secular press was […]

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Mexico City: Cathedral, Aztecs and Human Sacrifice, Miguel Pro

December 3, 2018

Walking tour of Mexico City starting with the magnificent Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It is the oldest, largest and most important cathedral in Latin America. We had Mass here and Fr. James’ homily is here. To demonstrate that Christianity conquers paganism, the cathedral was built atop the […]

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St. Thomas Aquinas on Mohammad and Islam

December 2, 2018

St. Thomas Aquinas, the Prince of Theologians had some things to say about Mohammed and Islam: “He (Mohammed) seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh urges us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. […]

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Mexico 6: Climbing Pyramids, Eating Ant Larvae, First Baptismal Font in New World and more

December 2, 2018

Tlaxcala for Mass and renewing baptismal vows in Cortez’s don’t from 1520. Fr. Jame’s homily and whole baptismal renewal here. Lunch in a La Gruta, an underground cave. Great food including ant eggs and larvae. Climbing the Teotihuacán Pyramids and arrival in Mexico City. PART ONE: PART TWO:

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Aztecs, Human Sacrifice and the Catholic Faith

December 2, 2018

 Today we visited the Aztec Temple in Mexico City. The cathedral of Mexico City was built right next to the 500-year temple. I did a lot of study on the Aztecs and their massive human sacrifices and cannibalism. I realized there was a great tie-in with the Catholic faith, the sacrifice of Christ and abortion […]

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Catholic Church: “Don’t Read the Bible!”

December 1, 2018

We often hear that the Catholic Church has forbidden the reading of the Bible! Have you heard this? Yeah, me too! But, this is another one of those big myths which has worked its way into the popular dialog but one that has not been proved from Church teaching and documents. There are two good […]

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Touring Amazing Puebla, Cathedral, Rosary Chapel, Cooking Class and more…

November 30, 2018

PART ONE: We started this very event full day with a walking tour of Puebla. What a beautiful and historic and Catholics city. A highlight or certainly they magnificent Cathedral. Our lunch was exquisite with tortilla soup and some appetizers we can’t even describe. The fillet mignon with a local Puebla sauce was unbelievable. We […]

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2 Minute Audios: Steve’s 6 Rules for Dealing with Non-Catholic Family & Friends

November 30, 2018

People always ask, “What do I say to my husband…?”  or “How do I get my kids back in the Church?  or  “I am getting no where trying to tell my friend about my Faith.” Well Steve came up with Six Rules to help you deal with non-Catholics – especially family and friends. They are […]

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Mexico Day 4: From San Miguel to Puebla

November 29, 2018

Lot of time on the comfortable bus today but it was very profitable and fun. We watched the movie “For Greater Glory” about the Cristeros from 100 years ago and their courageous fight against the anti-Catholic Mexican government. It brought tears to everyone’s eyes. It was especially moving knowing we were in the very part […]

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