Fr. Spitzer Debates Atheism on Larry King

by Steve Ray on October 5, 2010


On September 10, Fr. Spitzer was invited to appear on Larry King Live to provide an opposing viewpoint to the claim put forth in Stephen Hawking’s latest controversial work, The Grand Design, that “no God is required” to explain the creation of the universe. (Click image for article and video)

Dr. Hawking appeared earlier in the same program, while Fr. Spitzer, Hawking’s coauthor Leonard Mlodinow, and writer Deepak Chopra were invited to debate the topic, “Did God Create the Universe?”

A video of that portion of the show is embedded below. If you’re primarily interested in seeing Fr. Spitzer’s comments, you can find them at the very start of the video and at 4:53 … 9:30 … 12:40 … 17:01 … 19:50 … and 22:28. Placing your cursor over the black box at the bottom of the video frame will bring the scroll bar into view.


For Jimmy Akin on this issue, visit Part I and Part II.

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Ron Krumpos October 7, 2010 at 1:30 PM

In “The Grand Design” Stephen Hawking postulates that the M-theory may be the Holy Grail of physics…the Grand Unified Theory which Einstein had tried to formulate and later abandoned. It expands on quantum mechanics and string theories.

In my e-book on comparative mysticism is a quote by Albert Einstein: “…most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and most radiant beauty – which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive form – this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of all religion.”

E=mc², Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity, is probably the best known scientific equation. I revised it to help better understand the relationship between divine Essence (Spirit), matter (mass/energy: visible/dark) and consciousness (f(x) raised to its greatest power). Unlike the speed of light, which is a constant, there are no exact measurements for consciousness. In this hypothetical formula, basic consciousness may be of insects, to the second power of animals and to the third power the rational mind of humans. The fourth power is suprarational consciousness of mystics, when they intuit the divine essence in perceived matter. This was a convenient analogy, but there cannot be a divine formula.

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