Anglican Leader Questions Nativity Story

by Steve Ray on December 21, 2007

Anglican leader questions Nativity story 

London, Dec. 21, 2007 ( – The Archbishop of Canterbury questioned the accuracy of the Nativity story in a BBC television interview.

Dr. Rowan Williams, the worldwide leader of the Anglican communion, said that the story of the Magi in particular is vague at best, and the claim that the followed a star to Bethlehem is incredible because "stars to not behave like that."

The Anglican leader said that it is "very unlikely" that Jesus was born in Bethlehem in December. The tradition of celebrating the Nativity in December only arose, he said, "because it fitted well with the winter festival."

Archbishop Williams also questioned whether Jesus was born of a virgin. While he personally accepts that tenet of faith, he said, "that's not a pre-condition for being a Christian."

{ 9 comments… read them below or add one }

Will December 22, 2007 at 8:05 AM

For lack of a better phrase “oy vay” I can’t spell it or type the connotation but I am sure you get the idea.

Jesus was born of a virgin “that’s not a pre-condition for being a Christian.”
The sad part is there are probably a few of our Bishops and Priests who would agree.

Bob December 22, 2007 at 9:33 AM

Once again religious people are being drawn into the home turf of the secular enemy, ie. scientific proof of religious events. God is all powerful and (in biblical times) he more openly showed it perhaps. We still have private revelation today, but more open revelation is not so obvious. One thing is clear: if you believe in religion, you should be able to accept spiritual, extra-logical occurances {“miracles”}. If you can’t, don’t believe and don’t try to lead a church. The virgin birth and star are such miracles. Historical details, such as timing of the Nativity events have always been subject to speculation, and that’s okay.

Benoit December 22, 2007 at 1:50 PM

Well, I guess it’s another proof that the Church of England is really falling apart…
By the way for those who are interested about the accuracy of the “Christmas Star” there is a amazing website:
This guy sticked to the text of Matthew and using the last software in astronomics was able to find what was the “Christmas Star”….there are a lot of great discoveries. For example the date of the crucifixion!!!
All that shows the accuracy of the Gospels and the fact that God has everything in His hands!
And let’s pray for Rowan.

steve dalton December 23, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Williams is a great evangelist for Catholicism! The more he spouts this nonsense, the more Anglicans will think of going Romeward! ROTFL!

Jeb_Protestant December 24, 2007 at 7:42 PM

Most contemporary Catholics such as the late Raymond Brown and Joe Fitzmyer don’t believe that the infancy narratives are historical.

As another example, Catholic priest John Meier who teaches at Notre Dame and has his books printed with the impramatuer doesn’t believe that Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

Bob December 25, 2007 at 12:48 PM

Historical details aside, my main point alluded to above is that if God exists and is all powerful then miracles and spiritual occurances are scientific fact. Secular scientists don’t want to accept the possibility of the spiritual because it proves God.

As concerns historical details, a place like Bethlehem can be relative to the narrator of a history or The Gospels, eg. how far from your neiborhood do you get before its not your neighborhood. This descriptive problem is even greater when one refers to general areas of a place rather than specific residential subdivisions. I say I’m from Knoxville, but I really grew up in a Knox County suburb. The Gospels are pretty historical and I’m guessing any discrepancies are minor or relative to one’s point of view. Also, I suppose, there could be minor historical discrepancies in The Gospels without invalidating them.

The Catholic Knight January 1, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Behold the fruit of Liberalism. The Anglican Communion is crumbling, and is it any surprise with leadership like this?

Bob January 3, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I’ve heard that recent Anglican converts to Catholicism in England number in the thousands; no chance yet for any verification.

dan ciciora January 4, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Jeb_Protestant said, December 24, 2007 @ 7:42 pm Most contemporary Catholics such as the late Raymond Brown and Joe Fitzmyer don’t believe that the infancy narratives are historical. What are contemporary Catholics? And MOST of them don't believe that the infancy narratives are historical? Citations to back that up, pls.

STEVE RAY HERE: It is common knowledge based on the massive volumes written by Brown on both the resurrection and the birth. There was even a book written about Brown's departure from the truth of inerrancy and orthodox belief. You can do the research yourself (do a Google search) since I am running out the door for a plane. To compare my beliefs with that of the later-in-life Brown and Fizmyer is a joke.

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