Thursday, September 16, 2004

Put up your hands!

by Steve Ray on September 16, 2004

I’ve heard some dumb things lately but this one takes the cake. With all due respect to Catholic Cardinals some some can say pretty dumb things. Unless this was reported incorrectly (and I find it hard to believe this cardinal would really say something like this), or I completely misunderstand his meaning, this is one case in point.

I suppose we should throw down my gun and throw up my hands when a man is raping my wife?  Or I should put my hands in my pockets when a brute is kidnapping my daughters?

Here is what the cardinal said as reported by Catholic World News:

Fight terror by disarmament, cardinal suggests

Rome, Sep. 15 ( – Cardinal Renato Martino, the president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, has called for general disarmament as a response to terrorism.

In an interview with the Italian monthly Famiglia Cristiana , which will appear this week on Italian newsstands, Cardinal Martino argues: “To respond to terrorism and violence with another form of violence begins a perverse spiral.”

Rather than responding with armed force to terrorists, Cardinal Martino said that world powers should promote disarmament. In fact, he said, “If we do not go ahead with disarmament, peace will be disarmed.”

Cardinal Martino– who was in New York on September 11, 2001, serving as the Vatican’s representative at the UN– last week referred to the worldwide struggle against terrorism as a “Fourth World War.” But he insisted that the war should not be fought by military means.

The cardinal said that the fight against terrorism should be carried out through the defense of “law in general, and human rights in particular.” He did not explain how those rights were to be protected, nor how disarmed states could defend themselves against armed terrorists.

So let’s ask ourselves: Should our nation disarm when this little guy below and his radical Muslim buddies are out to get everyone who doesn’t agree with them? You tell me! And tell the victims released from Nazi Concentration Camps that the free world should disarm to make the terrorists feel better about themselves. And ask the families of the World Trade Center victims.   




I Was Challenged! Not to a Dual but to a Debate

by Steve Ray on September 16, 2004

I was challenged to a debate in a very unprofessional manner with the short subject line message in an e-mail that said: “Subject: are you going to be in the Southeast anytime soon? – perhaps we can have a debate.“

Responding to his e-mail I wrote: “Debate? What would we debate — who to elect for president? Why would I want to debate you? I don’t even know who you are.“

He replied: “I am an apologist with the churches of Christ. I’ve had over 80 formal, public, oral debates including a few with Roman Catholics on the following three topics: sola scriptura, original sin, infant baptism. I live near Huntsville, Alabama.”

So, I have to ask myself, why would I want to debate some guy from a Fundamentalist fringe group? Why would I want to fly to Alabama to debate some guy I’ve never heard of before? And why would I give the time of day to some fellow who seems to view debating as some kind of hobby or sport?

Naw, I am flattered someone wants to debate me but life is too short to waste it on such frivolous contests. But hey, maybe he can debate my younger brother who was once a “Church of Christer” and who has now come into the Catholic Church with his family.

((After reading this my younger brother wrote: “I was reading your blog and came across your debate enthusiast. I was immersed into Christ in the tub at the Church of Christ and would love to debate him. I could quote many of the verses I have memorized. Most over a bowl of hot Cocoa Wheat’s while hearing moms radio program “Through the Bible with Dr. McGee.” Tell me when he is going to hitch hike up here so I can have time to work with my debate coach. (Andrew, he is good at debating.“))